Tandem Talks: Buddy Reads and Readalongs
Jen - Hello and welcome to the Tandem Collective Talks podcast.
Lex - Tandem Collective celebrates books, film, TV, podcasts and more with our global community.
Lucy - Weโre Jen, Jaide, Lucy and Lex, members and friends of Team Tandem. You might already know us from Instagram or TikTok, but if not, it's great to meet you and welcome.
Jen - We're here to chat to you about what's new in the world of books, publishing and film, interview some of your favorite authors and hear your thoughts on what you're reading and watching at the moment.
Jaide - You can find us at @tandemcollectiveuk on Instagram and also @tandemcollectiveglobal
Jen - Hello. This is our episode about buddy reads and readalongs, so I will be chatting to Hayley from @taleofabibliophile on Instagram about a more casual buddy read and Naomi from Tandem, about the more structured readalongs that I think most of us are familiar with. So, Lex; I think I might actually have met you on a very early Tandem Readalong.
Lex - What was the first Readalong that you were on?
Jen - The Hunting Party?
Lex - Hmm. Right, A) Such a good book. B) Such a good Readalong for your first ever Readalong!
Jen - Yeah, I think we were the same character. Were you Julian?
Lex - No, I was Nick.
Jen - Oh, I was Julian, I think.
Lex - But I think that's what made that Readalong for me; The Hunting Party, if you haven't read it, is split into less than ten characters. And then everyone on the Readalong was assigned a character from the get go, so that it almost made it feel a bit Cluedo-esque and really very group-centric. So right off the bat, it was a great Readalong for you to be on.
Jen - Absolutely. And I think the fact that we chat all the time now and WhatsApp each other and are podcasting together and do all kinds of nonsense, just shows the friendships you can build by reading together.
Conversely, Luce, I don't think weโve ever read together. Do you do many Readalongs and buddy reads?
Luce - I havenโt, to be honest. Apart from the quite structured Tandem Readalongs but, I think that point about, you know, developing relationships with like minded readers; there's people now who I've been on Tandem Readalongs with who, now, we follow each other, we will make recommendations to each other. So again, you know, I feel it's a great soundboard or a great starting off point for starting to do more of them.
Jen - Do either of you have a preference as to if you prefer a really structured Readalong, like โwe're going to read this many pages a dayโ or if you just prefer saying โOh, we'll read this at the same time, then chat.โ
Lucy - I like what the Tandem approach to it is, which is that obviously there is a loose schedule for people to follow, just so that we can fit the book into normally about a week or week and a half. But I do quite like to go at my own pace. And I also think that once you remove that pressure from people that it's more enjoyable. And if people know they can read at their own pace, yeah, I think it just makes people immerse themselves in it fully.
Lex - I have never done a Readalong or a buddy read that isn't heavily structured. Like, I am not particularly good with in-person book clubs where you would maybe set a book, go away, read it and then come back three weeks later or whatever. I think I need that day-to-day accountability and I think also that makes the experience of it for me, exchanging with people who are on the same page, in the same twist, in the same reveal as you are right in that moment. That's where I get my joy from those kind of things, buddy reads, in terms of outside of a structure, I almost prefer it when they happen accidentally. Like Luce and I accidentally just read Verity by Colleen Hoover over the past weekend. And then on Sunday we both got this mad text from each other going โOh my God, this bit, Oh my God, that bit.โ And that was really joyful for me, the unexpected nature of having both just read it over the weekend.
Jen - I think that's really interesting. And I wonder if in part it's slightly a personality thing because as you both know, I'm quite rebellious and I detest rules and having to do things at set times. So if I have something that says I have to read certain pages on a certain day that makes me less want to do it. I'm more likely to just read it all in one go and then pretend I read it on the right days. Whereas if I've got a buddy read where it's like โwell, read what you want whenever you want toโ, I'm a bit better at pacing it.
Lex - I think there are also some books that lend themselves to different formats. Like nonfiction, for example, I think would benefit more from a structured Readalong where we go, โOkay, we're going to read this chapter on this particular thing over these couple of daysโ, whereas thrillers, for example, once I'm reading it, I'm going to read to the end because I need to know what's happened. And then Jen, like you said, even though I am a fan of the structure, I might then eke out my feedback over the days that Iโm meant to have done it. Because once you're in a good thriller, just gotta read it.
Lucy - Sign of a good book is when you cannot stop reading it regardless of any group reading schedule.
Jen - Perfect. All right, guys. Well, I'm going to go to Hayley @taleofabibliophile now, and then Naomi. Thank you very much.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Tandem Talks podcast. In this podcast, I'm chatting to two of the most interesting kind women on Bookstagram who I'm lucky enough to have got to know through buddy reads or Readalongs. First, I'm chatting to Hayley, otherwise known as @taleofabibliophile about buddy reading, the fun of a more casual reading together experience and how that can bring more to your reading than reading online. Then I'll be chatting to Naomi, also known as Naomi Tandem. If you've been involved in any kind of Instagram readalong you've probably been involved with a Tandem Readalong.
And Naomi is the woman that started it all. It's a massive pleasure to have both of them on the podcast. Here we go! Hayley, hello.
Hayley - Hi, Jen.
Jen - How are you?
Hayley - I am fine, thank you.
Jen - Lovely. As I mentioned, you can find Hayley on Instagram as @taleofabibliophile. Hayley, are you on bookish Twitter or just Instagram?
Hayley - Just Instagram for me.
Jen - Yeah, me too. Hayleyโs style of bookstagramming and reading is dark and spooky. She is the queen of a posed and costumed picture and writes reviews that will leave you with lots more creepy books added to your reading list. What first brought you to Bookstagram Hayley?
Hayley - So it was obviously quite a while ago now in 2017, I think. I started so quite a while ago, but there was nothing specific. I just remember I was at work one day and I was talking to one of my colleagues. He was also a big reader and we were saying about how it'd be nice to get involved of sharing what we think about books and just finding a space where readers can talk to other readers. I assume I must have seen something on my personal Instagram, but I don't ask me what, I can't remember. And I just thought, you know, ah, I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to make a page, I'm going to do it. Because I like Instagram, I like that itโs pictures, it's not too heavy, you can do it quite easily. So I was like, yeah, just do it. And then yeah, the rest is history.
Jen - You've got one of those accounts that is so well put together, that at first I was pretty sure you were going to be way too cool for me. Once we got past that, we obviously started chatting about our love of all things horror and creepy, which somehow led to us buddy reading a lot of smut together.
Hayley - Yeah, they link really well together donโt they?
Jen - For me, buddy reading is really one of those things that made me really love Bookstagram. It becomes kind of your own mini book club. How do you think buddy reading kind of adds to your experience of a book?
Hayley - I think it introduces you to other viewpoints. So when Iโm reading, obviously I only see things from my point of view. Whereas sometimes if you have somebody else, they then suggest things or may think about things differently, and it just gives you that more wide experience, I think, of a book - of seeing it in a way that you may not have thought of, which I really like. And I think it's just it's a good way to connect people and just get chatting, which is great.
Jen - Yeah, I agree. It definitely helps you kind of open up your viewpoints of reading and see things that you might have missed as well. That you might only get from - if you were doing kind of a reread of a book - things you pick up in the second read through. Somebody else might've picked it up first time round and say well, did you notice that? And yeah, it just brings you a lot more levels of understanding, I think.
Hayley - Yeah, because I don't know, obviously everyone reads differently and I think sometimes when you're focusing on something, somebody might be more focused on the characters in a book or the plot or the descriptive elements, and I think if you are reading with someone who has a bit of a different interest in what they find exciting about books, it might just open you up to another way of thinking about reading, which is always a good thing.
Jen - Do you prefer more structure to your buddy reads? So, saying โWeโre going to read 50 pages by this day and then a hundred pages by this dateโ, or just kind of seeing how it goes and chatting as you go.
Hayley - So I think it depends on what I'm reading. If I'm reading a book that's quite large, I think it's good to have maybe a goal of where you're going to get to, although then that obviously increases the pressure of reading it. But I'm quite happy to do casual. Just go with the flow and see what happens.
Jen - I think sometimes it's good to slightly increase the pressure of what you're reading though, especially as you say with a big chunky book because I don't know about you, but otherwise I might give up halfway through it and start another book as well. And then a year later realize I haven't actually read that book.
Hayley - I mean, I, you know, I've always read multiple books generally. It is a bit of a bad habit, but I think yeah, I think it just depends. I think it depends on whether it's a book that you need to concentrate on as well or whether it's one thatโs very entertaining. If it's really easy, I think you don't need so much structure necessarily.
Jen - Yeah, for sure. I read The Priory of the Orange Tree as a Readalong with Tandem, which is this hugely chunky book. I think it's about 600 pages. And if I hadn't read it as part of a Readalong and had the cards saying โread 50 pages this dayโ, I honestly think about page 200 I would have just wandered off to do something else. But in the end I was so glad that I got through it and felt like I deserved a certificate. So reading with other people was definitely a winner for that.
Hayley - Now I think I read The Priory of the Orange Tree over โฆ it must have been months it took me to read it, because it's just huge. And it wasn't because it was necessarily hard going to read. I really enjoyed it. But it's just such an intimidating book to start, I think.
Jen - Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's, it's brilliant. It's fantastic writing by Samantha Shannon but - I find it with the Lord of the Rings books, which shamefully I actually haven't read - you look at the size of them and you're like, I can't possibly get through this.
Hayley - Jen, you need to read them.
Jen - If anybody out there wants to do a buddy read of Lord of the Rings books I'm up for it.
Hayley - I'm already reading them again or I would say absolutely.
Jen - Are there any downsides to buddy reading, do you think?
Hayley - I think that the pressure is, as you say, it's a good thing, but I think it can be a bad thing in that you start feeling sometimes โoh, I don't want to pick up the book but I don't want to let the other person downโ almost, because we were talking about it. I think there's very limited downsides, in my opinion, to buddy reading. And I think if youโre with somebody who is quite easy going about it, you know, you can have the chat โIโm struggling a bit, let's call it a dayโ or whatever. I think it's generally positive. I find it to be a positive experience.
Jen - Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think that's the difference between a smaller buddy read with people you of click with and friends and maybe people you've met on Instagram as opposed to a really much bigger structured readalong because whilst they're usually fantastic, sometimes you will just find people that obviously you don't really click with and they think completely differently to you.
What would be your top tips Hayley, for someone who wants to get involved with their first buddy read? I think mine would be just chat to people, feel free to suggest a buddy read in maybe the comments of somebodyโs post if they say they've got something that they're going to read, and you know it's on your list as well. Even if they say it's not really the time or I'm going to start it right now and you haven't got time, you've always potentially found somebody to buddy read with in the future.
Hayley - Absolutely. I think that's definitely one of the most, if not the most important, things to say; I've got this book as well. Do you want to read it together? Especially if it's a book that you maybe weren't going to get to. I think if if it's something that is down my pile, if somebody says to me โweโll read it together,โ I'll say okay, let's do that. Yeah, I'll get it off the pile. The To Be Read pile.
Jen - Yeah, exactly.
Hayley - I think itโs putting yourself out there a bit. Even sometimes on story, on my Instagram story, Iโll say I've got this book, you know, does anyone fancy reading? A couple of times I think I did that withโฆ I canโt remember which book it was nowโฆ But then a couple of people ended up joining in and reading it. And that was just from me asking. So yeah.
Jen - I think that's it, I think even when I first joined Bookstagram and I only had a couple of hundred followers - if you just comment on some of these posts saying โDo you want to buddy read this?โ I've never had a bad reaction. Nobody's ever been outraged that I suggest being their bookish friend. So, I think that's the thing, just go for it. Always say you want somebody to read with.
Hayley - We're all readers, aren't we, at the end of the day, in some form or another. So most people are either going to say yes or they'll say no, or they'll say no for right now.
Jen - That's it. And everybody's book blogging in whatever form, because they want to talk about books. So we're all there for the same reason. Thank you very much, Hayley. So last question. What are you reading right now?
Hayley - Oh my gosh, so I am reading right now, as always, a couple of books. I will finish Passengers by John Marrs. And I'm also reading When Marilyn Met the Queen by one of my other friends on bookstagram, Michelle Morgan. So that's really interesting.
Jen - Is this about Marilyn Monroe meeting the Queen? Did she meet the Queen?
Hayley - Yeah. She met the queen. When she came over to film what would become the Prince and the Showgirl, she spent a few months in England filming that with Laurence Olivier.
Jen - I don't know why, but for some reason I don't think of Marilyn Monroe having existed in the same time as the Queen.
Hayley - Yeah, it is very strange. They were probably very similar ages werenโt they, as well. But yeah it's about her time in England. So that's really interesting, really enjoying that.
Jen - Amazing. All right. Thank you very, very much for joining me, Hayley. As I said, you can find Hayley at @taleofabibliophile on Instagram.
Hayley - Thank you for having me.
Jen - As I mentioned earlier, I'm joined by Naomi from Tandem Collective for a chat about Readalongs and what it is about reading with other people that adds so much to the reading experience. Hello, Naomi.
Naomi - Hello. Thank you for inviting me on.
Jen - Thank you for coming on. So, I would love it if you would just give me a really quick rundown for anybody that's listening and doesn't know what a Tandem readalong is.
Naomi - Okay, well so, the Tandem readalong was actually an accident. And the first one was I think four years ago now. And it was so tiny. A tiny little thriller that hadn't performed as well as expected at hardback. And the client came to us and said, โyou know, don't really mind what you do, but we just need some creative content on Instagram, a bit of author care, and we haven't really got any budgetโ.
So up until that point, the marketing that I'd been doing had focused a lot more on large scale paid-for influencer content, whereas in this instance we didn't have a budget to do that. So instead we reached out to 20 micro-influencers with around 1000 to 2000 followers and asked them whether they'd be interested in doing a real life live Readalong set over 4 hours.
The plot of the narrative was set over 4 hours and you could literally read it in 4 hours. So we got these 20 influencers. We created some beautiful prompt cards using artwork from the cover design and on the prompts there were points of discussion, as well as creative challenges that encouraged people to head to Instagram and create some kind of unusual, unique content.
And we all started reading at the same time, on the same day, and essentially all would reach the prompts at around the same moment. So it led to a plethora of content. I think we had something ridiculous, like 170 pieces of content, and it turned out to be one of the most successful campaigns we'd ever done, purely because I think that kind of collective experience gave such a sense of excitement to the reading of the narrative and brought all of those micro-influencers together where actually most of them hadn't been in contact before.
So that was kind of where the seed began, and it definitely was not a perfect iteration of the Readalong. And there were a lot of things that we needed to do differently. So the next Readalong that we did was kind of the other end of the scale, and it was a big budget campaign for The Hunting Party.
Jen - I was on that one. I joined you for that. Yeah.
Naomi - Oh, my goodness. You really have been with us a long, long time now.
Jen - Yes, it's a very long time. Yeah.
Naomi - Madness! And yes, so for that one, as you know, we kind of went all out and alongside the prompt cards, we also had parcels that related to the themes of the book. Everyone was given a specific character, like a murder mystery, and you had to create a flatlay in the style of that character. And really it's just kind of grown from there. Weโre now running around 40 Readalongs a month. So that was years and years ago but really the foundation stayed the same. It's just a collective reading experience. It's quite a simple concept when you think about it.
Jen - I love that though, because I think when you've done a certain amount of Readalongs, you kind of know exactly what you're expecting. You can join in, the book's going to be different and the prompts are going to be different, but you kind of know what you're doing. Do you know roughly how many you've done at this point, how many Tandem Readalongs?
Naomi - You know, I don't, but it is over 200 for sure. So yeah, I think it's nearing 250, something like that. But a crazy amount.
Jen - That's amazing. And they've changed so much. If I think back from my first Tandem Readalongs, we all kind of knew each other because we'd done Readalongs together. And now if you join a Readalong, there's quite a good chance that you never will have met any of the other Readalong participants before. It's brilliant. Are there any kind of that have really stood out to you for being really unique or for producing really great content?
Naomi - I think for me, The Mercies set the precedent and again, I met you at the Mercies event.
Jen - Yep, I was on that one as well.
Naomi - For me, I was running that because we were a team of two back then. I was doing everything that the campaign managers do now. So for me it was a very hands-on experience. And again, with that, we had some really lovely creative challenges - there is a beautiful scene in the Mercies where the two main characters create a flatbread together. And so we included ingredients for making flatbread. I mean, I messed up a little bit there because some people had exploding flour in their parcels. Everything canโt be perfect, but I really love how much thought we put into the parcels. Alongside that, there's tastes like aniseed and the smell of fennel. So we had accompanying parcels with those tastes and scents, and then the kind of special bit on top of that. And actually, really we were seeing the kind of hybrid because the final installment of the Readalong was an in-person event with the author in an old archway in South London, and we decked it out with candles and seashells and a spotlight in the center of the room where the authors read the final chapters.
So we completed the Readalong together in person, and we recorded that for anyone that couldn't couldn't be with us in person. So that was one that really stood out to me purely because it was something that I felt ownership over, I guess. But more recently, I mean, the Sarah Vaughan campaign was incredible, mainly with that one because of the sort of watchalong element. That was Anatomy of a Scandal. And I loved all of the creative assets that we sent out alongside. So our amazing designer had a brainstorm with the campaign manager, which was Lex, and they came up with Polaroid images using the stills from the TV series, business cards, you know, all kinds of things to bring the narrative to life.
And Wendy did All the Lonely People, and she launched a kind of Loneliness Awareness Week around that and it had a really beautiful charitable element. And we also did a Zoom coffee morning for anyone that during the pandemic was feeling lonely and that was very special again to see how much of a sense of community and togetherness the Readalongs foster. So that was was a stand out for me. Stephen King - we did a readathon of seven of his novellas that have previously not been published individually. They've only ever been in collections. And so we did a challenge to see how many you could read in a weekend; the chance to be crowned king for the day.
I mean, I could probably go on and on and on, as I'm mentioning one, another pops into my head. But I can't take any credit anymore. It's all the team that are just coming up with these insanely creative ideas. And I'm kind of - going back to what you said - we've got that foundation, which means you've got something to build on. The ideas that come out of collective brainstorming are just amazing. And I'd want to be involved. I've never actually been on a Readalong.
Jen - That's really mad. I think the best Readalongs to me, and I think why The Mercies was so special, is because it was just so immersive. So I recommend The Mercies all the time. I've recommended it on this podcast many times and whenever I pick it up I can actually still remember the taste of the aniseed tea and the event with Kiran, and it was such a kind of togetherness. And that kind of immersion in the book, I think, is what made it really, really special.
So when we think about social media engagement we think about numbers of likes and shares and comments, and that's probably commonly how we measure engagement. But for a Readalong, a lot of the engagement is built in how the readers connect and engage with each other. How much of the Readalong do you think is built in the DM groups?
Naomi - I think the majority of it, to be honest. I think it's the most special part for the team and for myself to be privy to and the author when we add them into the DM group for Q&A. We are having access to these private conversations that normally would happen on WhatsApp, and that's where the majority of recommendations and link sharing happens, behind those closed doors. And I think that's where the relationships really form. One of the pillars of all of our business is community. We wouldn't exist without the community. And just as we on the team are friends and we're not just colleagues, it's a very different sense of being part of a family. That's what we want to foster within the community as well.
And thatโs what the DM groups give rise to. My pinnacle of success or my measurement of success, I guess, is when a DM group decides to splinter and create their own DM group and go back and read something else together. So we had it with Karen Swan. We've got this keen group of Karen Swan fans who now read all of the new Karen Swan releases - they went back and read all the back lists and set up their own DM group. They call themselves Tandemettes.
Jen - It's amazing. I was going to suggest that they called themselves the Cygnets. Like mini swans.
Naomi - Oh, that's nice. That's nice. But that for me is very special, to know that there's been lasting friendships and we were receiving a lot of amazing messages throughout the pandemic. I was receiving physical cards in the post from people saying โthe Readalongs have changed my life, they've saved me. I live alone, I'm very lonely. But the readalongs have given me a sense of connection and community.โ And โgetting those orange parcels through the post has been the kind of highlight of my week and the relationships that I've gone on to form.โ So yeah, I think it's a hard one because clients won't see that, they want something quantified. But I mean at the end of the day, for me, that kind of anecdotal data is even more important than the numbers.
Jen - And I guess it kind of actually just keeps people engaged with Tandem. It makes them want to do more Readalongs as well in a very simple way. But I think that is really important - from experience you share more in the Readalong groups that you would share publicly on your grid or even in your stories. So you learn so much more about not only the book and how other people are viewing it, but about your other readers. And it really brings a different kind of closeness to the group, I think.
Naomi - Absolutely. And something interesting that I've noticed, as well, is how people's opinions can be swayed from the DM group chat. So someone might read it, even a campaign manager in all honesty, might read the book in question and not enjoy it or not love it or, you know, not, not agree with certain aspects. And then it's in the conversation and the debate that happens in the DM group that then it becomes a five star read because of that opportunity to discuss and see it from other people's viewpoints.
Jen - And I think even in a less positive way, that's really important. I mean, certainly I've been in DM groups and somebody has said โI find this upsetting becauseโ and explained and you see it in a way that you yourself couldn't see it. And it really brings a different level of awareness to the Readalong that I think is really important.
Naomi - And that's inclusivity at the end of the day, isn't it? It's being able to understand from a different personโs perspective. Yeah, seeing that our way is not necessarily the right way. It's not fact, it's, it's a personal subjective experience. And the Readalongs demonstrate that, you know, everyone has different triggers and different needs from a narrative and you bring your own context to a book when you're reading it. So yeah, it's an interesting thing to watch unfold.
Jen - Completely, I definitely agree. So last question for me. You are obviously a big reader yourself. Who do you buddy read with and what is the last thing you buddy read?
Naomi - In all honesty, I haven't done a buddy read in a really long time. I haven't sort of sat and shared that experience with someone, but I guess word of mouth has a big impact on me. So my recommendations then go on to intrigue friends of mine. So my mum is my go to, to be honest, I know that we have a very shared taste in books so my mum will always recommend something to me, then I will go on to read and she's the person that I will discuss that with and then my best friend will probably then go on to read it after me. So then, you know, it's that kind of passing the baton on, I guess, and that's the joy of word of mouth, isn't it?
Jen - And I think that's one of the real joys of Team Tandem as well. We're all such readers. If somebody has read something and they've absolutely loved it, you know you're going to hear about it. Every single chat that goes on that week with that person is going to be โBy the way, have you read this?โ
Naomi - Yeah, the book that Iโm wanting to pick up next is, and we've recently done a Readalong for it, is called When Women Were Dragons. And that is exactly an example of a book that I wouldn't necessarily pick up by the blurb, but I'm hearing people talking about it and seeing the content has really piqued my interest. So that's next on my TBR. One book actually that we have been buddy reading on the team is a book called 4000 Weeks that I recommended to everybody and a few of the team have read it recently or have listened to it on audio. And that's been interesting because it's a nonfiction title and it's essentially about how we how we live our lives and - it sounds depressing - but the fact that we've got supposedly on average 4000 weeks in our lifetime. And the author says, rather than saying that is a bad thing, thinking about it in terms of, wow, I've got these 4000 weeks, make the most of of my time.
And in it he also talks about our concept of time. So lots of us on the team love our productivity hacks. So I'm one of those people that will block out time. And actually he says, well, how do you know that a specific task will fit into that time? It's not that black and white. And there were moments in that book that really stood out to me that sort of changed my mindset, and I can see it in other members of the team, the chapters that they've pulled out. So I guess as a team we do buddy read. If one person loves something quite often that will get around the whole team and we'll do an internal book club every quarter. So we did Atomic Habits this month as well. So I guess that in a way is a buddy read. Sorry, that was very convoluted.
Jen - No, it's all right. It's just a looser way of saying basically most of your reading is buddy reading.
Naomi - Yeah, word of mouth reading.
Jen - Absolutely. Okay. Well, thank you so much for joining me Naomi. if you'd like to see more of what Tandem Collective is reading, you can follow @tandemcollectiveuk or @tandemcollectiveglobal on Instagram or you can follow us on Tiktok - we are @tandemcollective.
Naomi - Thank you so much for having me, Jen. I've really loved being involved in this.
Jen- Lovely. Thank you, Naomi.
Naomi - Thank you.
Jen - Those are my chats with Hayley, @taleofabibliophile and Naomi who is @tandemcollectiveuk on Instagram. If you haven't joined in with a Readalong before, make sure you are signed up to the Tandem Newsletter and join us for some excellent reads. The reading schedule is very much suggested, you don't have to stick to the day's kind of specific pages as long as at the end of your read you do get your stats into us.
All right. Thank you very much. Goodbye.
Jaide - As always we're open to your feedback, so please do hit us up at @tandemcollectiveuk on Instagram or using the hashtag #tandemcollectivetalks. If there's anyone content creator wise, industry superstars or your favourite author that you think we should feature in a podcast, then let us know. Weโll see you later.
